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Candidate Debates

by: scott_laugenour

Fri Aug 13, 2010 at 11:23:27 AM EDT


(Ideas, schmideas. Debates just clutter the political discourse! - promoted by eli_beckerman)

I am asked frequently if I will debate my incumbent opponent before our two-way race culminates in the general election on November 2.  The answer is 'YES.'  I will debate in any race if the event organizers do not exclude a fellow candidate who is on the same ballot.

In the special senate election in Massachusetts earlier this year, Martha Coakley implored upon debate organizers to include all three candidates, but did not go as far as I would have in requiring it.

This condition of mine - to participate only if no candidate is exluded - is irrelevant if there are only two candidates.  But many primary and general election races, including this years gubernatorial election in Massachusetts, have more than two candidates.

scott_laugenour :: Candidate Debates
During the 2008  New Hampshire Republican Party primaries, the state republican party withdrew its sponsorship and endorsement of a debate when Fox News insisted on excluding Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter.  Unfortunately, the other invited candidates did not take a principled stand and the show went on.  (Also unfortunate was the purging of the state party's brave statement on the subject from its web site a few weeks later.)

In Canada, also in 2008, the ruling party leadership along with a sponsoring media group were compelled to reverse themselves and invite the Green Party leader, Elizabeth May, who had been excluded from a national elections debate.  The general public and one other party leader loudly protested the exclusion.  The show went on with Ms. May present.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/20...

(My Canadian friends tell me that they don't want their country following the example of their southern neighbor, neither in health care nor in political debates.)

Dennis Kucinich learned during the Democratic Party primary that each debate organizer sets it own criteria.  He witnessed the criteria shift around,  and he learned that other candidates were more than ready to comply with exclusionary practices.  He did not receive the kind of support from any state affiliate of his party that Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter received from the New Hampshire Republican Party.   In one instance, for a debate in Las Vegas in early 2008, he had first been exluded, then formally invited, and then summarily dis-invited.  An appeals court upheld the exclusion, determining that a media corporation had a first amendment right to free speech, which would be violated if the corporation were forced to include a candidate against its wishes.

As a candidate I will not participate in exclusionary debates and as a voter I do not watch them.  This is out of respect for the hard work it takes to get on the ballot and my respect for those who run, regardless of political ideology.  I politely walk out of gatherings of people that do tune in, explaining my reason for doing so.  I missed seeing first-hand what color shoes Sarah Palin wore to the vice presidential debate because Rosa Clemente and three other vice presidential candidates, all of whom were on the ballots in enough states to garner the needed number of electoral college votes to win election, were excluded.

Jill Stein, this year's Green-Rainbow candidate for governor in Massachusetts, issued a statement yesterday.  She had been notified of financial criteria that another media consortium is imposing on gubernatorial debates this year.  Please read it.
http://www.jillstein.org/2010/...

I'll never forget the woman who approached me and asked an innocent question in Lenox on election day in November, 2008.  I was standing in front of the polling station with a Cynthia McKinney sign.  The woman saw that Cynthia McKinney was the Green Party candidate for president.  She said that she was very happy to see that the Green Party was active.  "We need to hear the green party perspective," she declared.  I gave her some information about the party.  Then she asked me, "Why was it that the Green Party chose not to be in the presidential debates?"  I let a few moments of silence pass with a small sigh.  The days when the League Of Women Voters organized debates in the spirit of democracy and voter service are long gone.  I provided the woman with a short lesson on the recent history of debate practices, which I will leave for others to elaborate upon at another time.

Let's insist on real debates.  I'll see you there.

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The Boston Globe editorialized a few days ago that Jill Stein and Timothy Cahill should be included in gubernatorial debates.  The consortium of which the Globe is a part had earlier suggested that it would not invite candidates who had not raised $100,000 to the debates that it sponsors.  Yesterday, the Boston Globe reported that all candidates who had qualified for the ballot would be invited to the two consortium-sponsored debates.

I sent the following letter to the editor of the Boston Globe today:

To the Editor:

I applaud the influential editorial position your newspaper has taken within
the major media consortium to include all 4 ballot-qualified candidates to
the gubernatorial debates that it sponsors.

May I suggest as a follow-up that the Globe produce some stories on the
history of political debating in this country?  Particularly as it relates
to gubernatorial and presidential debates, comparisons of this country's
approach with that of other democracies would be educational.  You may have
instigated a turn-around on the rather shameful practices of the recent
past.  There is at least one new generation that does not know what state
and nation-wide debates were like when the League of Women Voters sponsored
them.

Let's build upon this and make inclusive debates for all candidates the
business-as-usual approach to our democracy.


Move forward; the center leads nowhere.


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