Support Green Mass Group!

Donate today to help cover our 2012 costs
if you'd like to see GMG survive & thrive!


Fundraising Thermometer

Menu

- Home
- About GMG
- Contact
- F.A.Q.
- How to use GMG
- Policy
- RSS Feed
- Diaries

Make a New Account

Username:

Password:



Forget your username or password?


Search




Advanced Search


Event Calendar
May 2012
(view month)
S M T W R F S
* * 01 02 03 04 05
06 07 08 09 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31 * *
<< (add event) >>

Facebook
Green Mass Group on Facebook



Towards a just & healthy democracy in the Commonwealth... and beyond!

Fully Renewable Grid

by: gmoke

Mon Jun 20, 2011 at 23:38:50 PM EDT


(Germany on its way to a better, brighter future. What about U S ?   - promoted by eli_beckerman)

A couple of years ago, Dr William Moomaw of Tufts mentioned a regional scale experiment with an all-renewable grid in Germany.  I've been curious about that project since then.  Today, I did a little googling and found a seven-minute youtube called "Fully renewable: biogas + wind + solar"

Dr Jurgen Schmid at the University of Kassel, Department of Efficient Energy Conversion is the spokesperson from this December 2007 video.  The system described is wind with pumped hydro storage and grid scale solar with methane from biomass (corn biofuels).  When the sun isn't out in the South, the wind may be blowing in the North.  When there's too much wind, it can be used to pump water into reservoirs that will provide hydroelectricity days or weeks later.  When the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing, biomass can be burned or converted to methane.  They say Germany can have a 100% renewable grid by 2050.  Dr Schmid, along with John Sievers, Stefan Faulstich, Mathias Puchta, Ingo Stadler, is the co-author of "Long-term perspectives for balancing fluctuating renewable energy sources" (pdf alert:  http://desire.iwes.fraunhofer.... details the steps necessary to get to a fully renewable grid.

gmoke :: Fully Renewable Grid
If it can work in Germany, which has, on average, about as much sunlight as Seattle, it can work in the USA too.  Maybe even in a city like New York.

The NYC Solar Map (http://nycsolarmap.com/), a collaboration between New York City, the City University of New York, and the Department of Energy, shows 66.4 percent of the city's buildings have roof space suitable for solar panels and could generate up to 5,847 megawatts of energy, 14% of the city's total annual use (taking weather into account).

The data for the map was collected using a Lidar-equipped plane recorded the shape, angle, and size of the city rooftops and the shading provided from trees and structures around them.

New Yorkers can use the map to discover the solar power potential of their own roof, the associated costs, rebates, and various financial incentives by entering their address.

Today in NYC, about 400 solar installations produce 6.5 megawatts, and existing solar power installations nationwide produce about 2,300 megawatts.  If the NYC data is replicable in other cities, we are currently using a little more than a tenth of what we could get from sunlight alone.  And that's just counting electricity.

hat tip http://www.treehugger.com/file...

Poll
More fully renewable grids?
yes
no
not yes
not no
neither yes nor no
both yes and no
don't understand the question?
none of the above

Results

Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email

About
Green Mass Group is an online forum for Green thought and collective action in Massachusetts. It is a community forum for justice, sustainability, democracy and health in the Commonwealth and beyond. Read more

Quotes
"Now, is this the deal I would have preferred? No. I believe that we could have made the tough choices required - on entitlement reform and tax reform - right now, rather than through a special congressional committee process. But this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need and gives each party a strong incentive to get a balanced plan done before the end of the year. Most importantly, it will allow us to avoid default and end the crisis that Washington imposed on the rest of America."
--President Barack Obama on the debt ceiling "deal"



"Despite Democratic control over the White House, despite Democratic control over the Senate, despite overwhelming opposition from the American people, a small minority of the members of the Republican-controlled House have successfully pushed an extreme right-wing agenda onto the American political landscape. It is an ideology which believes that despite the fact that the rich are getting richer, the middle class is shrinking, and poverty is increasing, all - all of the burden for deficit reduction should rest on working people."
--Independent Senator Bernie Sanders on the debt ceiling "deal"


Then and Now

Then...

"Last year Evergreen, a Massachusetts company, agreed to establish their first-ever United States based manufacturing facility here in Massachusetts. They did so, or are doing so, at Devens. They have now agreed and chosen to triple their size at Devens. Their next phase of expansion, right here in Massachusetts, a signature company in a signature sector, and we congratulate all of the folks at Evergreen and look forward to continuing to work with you... We made a personal commitment to Evergreen for the sake of Evergreen, but also because we wanted to show that there are ways in which state government, in working together with private industry and with the utility companies, could begin to create a different kind of environment, a different kind of business climate here, to grow that sector, and it is happening. It's happening. Evergreen is one of the most prominent examples, but there are a whole host of examples."
--Governor Deval Patrick, April 7, 2008, boasting about state investment in Evergreen.

and Now...

"Evergreen Solar Inc. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection yesterday, completing a stunning reversal of fortune for a high-flying alternative-energy company that once seemed to herald a new era for the Massachusetts economy... At its peak, Evergreen employed roughly 900 people locally and attracted more than $50 million in state support, as its stock price soared above $100 a share.
Yesterday, Evergreen's stock closed at 18 cents. The company shuttered its manufacturing plant in Devens earlier this year and now has only 85 employees left. Massachusetts is one of its top creditors, owed $1.5 million in rent."
--Erin Ailworth, Boston Globe, August 16, 2011


Connect with us


Find GMG on Facebook

Blog Roll
We recommend
AlterNet
The Automatic Earth
Club Orlov
Common Dreams
CounterPunch
Democracy Now!
Energy Bulletin
Green Change
Green Horizon
Green Party Watch
Mass Greens
No Supper Tonight
The Oil Drum
Open Media Boston
The Sanctuary
Sustainability by Design
Sustenance
techPresident
Truthdig
Web of Debt
YES! Magazine

Third Party Politics
Ballot Access News
Free & Equal
Independent Political Report
Poli-Tea

MA Politics
All Politics is Wicked Local
Blue Mass Group
Bob LeLievre's Blog
CommonWealth Unbound
Gold Mass Group
Mass Roundup
MassBeacon.com
Mass Politics Blog
Planet Valenti
Red Mass Group


Important Links
Massachusetts
Alliance for Democracy
Alternatives for Community and Environment
Bioneers by the Bay
Boston Workers Alliance
Center for Popular Economics
The Crash Course
Dudley Street Neighborhood Initiative
The E.F. Schumacher Society
Greater Boston Peak Oil & Climate Change Meetup
Green Justice Coalition
Green-Rainbow Party
Massachusetts Budget & Policy Center
Massachusetts Coalition for Healthy Communities
Massachusetts Global Action
Massachusetts Green Jobs Coalition
Massachusetts Jobs with Justice
Massachusetts Peace Action
New Economics Institute
Northeast Organic Farming Association - Mass.
Nuestras Raices
ONE Massachusetts
Peacework Magazine
PV Sustain
Secure Green Future
Small Planet Institute
Stop the Wars Coalition
Student Immigrant Movement
Students for a Just and Stable Future
Time Trade Circle
Transition Massachusetts
Traprock Center for Peace & Justice
United for a Fair Economy
United for Justice with Peace

New England
Gund Institute for Ecological Economics
New England United

National
Business Alliance for Local Living Economies
Center for the Advancement of the Steady State Economy
Grassroots Economic Organizing
Green America
Green Party of the U.S.
The Greens/Green Party USA
Institute for Local Self Reliance
Institute for Policy Studies
New American Dream
Post Carbon Institute
Progressive Democrats of America
Slow Money Alliance
The Story of Stuff
Transition US
US Solidarity Economy Network

Global
350.org
African Greens
European Greens
Federation of Green Parties of Americas
Global Greens
New Economics Foundation


check to have links open new windows
Powered by: SoapBlox